sell your stuff (and fewer orders means less competition, which means worse prices for you the seller) and smaller stocks of the stuff you casually right-click-> buy, again at worse prices for you as a buyer due to lower competition, or the fact that adjusting prices to remain competitive will cut into the trader's profits too much, so he'll just sit there and wait for you to buy from the expensive dude instead of undercutting him and offering you a lower price. Tea Party Food Ideas, Goodbye Yellow Shampoo Boots, Ev Elx112p Review, The Romancers Play Script, Frank's Red Hot Vs Tabasco, Lnct Bhopal Hostel Fee Structure, Strawberry Pocky Ingredients, " />

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Introducing tick size - a limit on price precision when creating/updating an order. It's one of those silent skills no1 talks about for their real use, so everyone thinks it's only used in margin trading scams. How this has helped the regions is that sometimes these orders do fill (they arent all scams, typically purchasing at 75% of market and occasionally less for junk or bulky stuff). The majority of my gameplay for the last decade plus have been trading and hauling. It would be interesting for CCP to reply with the logic on why this style of gameplay should be changed? Margin trading is designed to allow you to have 10 billion ISK and issue 40 different buy orders for 1 billion, in the assumption that they won't all land together. Putting up a buy order for three billion units Trit in some backwater system station ties up a lot more capital now. 2. A more detailed breakdown and justification follows afterwards. I do not trade in Jita (whaaa? like i said in multiple comments they cant have consulted any economist about that whose degree is worth more than the paper its printed on. So, what does this mean for people who don't trade and don't care? Margin trading is designed to allow you to have 10 billion ISK and issue 40 different buy orders for 1 billion, in the assumption that they won't all land together. https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/3910027/#post3910027. Lol the market system is going to be like Albion online now! It will make no difference to botters. It is not about the margin trading scam, it is because you can easily manipulate the market with ZERO risk. Most of my industry activities are supplemental. I typically these days have about 10b wrapped up in trade with margin trading, without margin trading it would be a lot higher (50b?). No more abuse. Sure, .01 isk is not really a cheaper price, but having a few hundred turbonerds undercutting each other all day long in Jita for various amounts does result in lower sell prices. How margin trading helps my gameplay is that it enables me to set up and maintain buy orders in remote (not so busy) markets that typically take longer than 90 days to fill across all 4 accounts without needing an excessive amount of capital for orders that would otherwise expire if I did not renew them. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Here's an overview of the changes that are being made. I PvP when I need to, and occasionally PvE. But for anyone starting with low-ish capital it's honestly more important then even accounting or broker relations. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. The removal will greatly hurt the market (less investments) and the small trader. It would not simplify the game... but then again if I wanted to play a simple game and be completely mindless I would go play World of Warcrap (hint I quit this one a long time ago when they started designing it to be for babies). I imagine that most people would disagree but I feel sometimes like we need more trading skills and they should be more dramatic EG to the point that setting up a buy or sell order without trading skills would be more expensive than it currently is. On the trading front I have out of 10 characters (was 9 a month ago so working towards 12) 4 of them are dedicated traders. In total I definitely have around 1000 market orders. Not everyone is scamming, and also not everyone only trade out of necessity. https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/3910027/#post3910027. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Remove margin trading. In other words, things will probably get more expensive, people new to trading will have a harder time breaking into this part of the game without the ability to "borrow" money (that's more or less what margin trading does if we over-simplify it) and established, long-time traders with deep pockets will be even more powerful than before. Another idea would be specific markets EG ship trading, materials trading, modules trading bonuses to reduce fees/taxes. Also the market is so competitive that its not as overpowered as it sounds. The nerf to .01 isking i don't mind that much, but the relist fees and the margin trading change will reduce movement of prices and liquidity in the market by a lot. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Not really since as soon as u can't fulfill the order dies.. You don't need margin trading to manipulate prices when people are impatient enough to reflexibly outbid orders that are 1/100th the quantity. 1. Without the margin trading skill I could not keep so many buy orders open and definitely not bulk buy orders. That's an important provider of liquidity for market makers, in real markets and in today's Eve, and it's a mistake to remove it. Prices will take longer to change, there will be fewer buy orders to right click->sell your stuff (and fewer orders means less competition, which means worse prices for you the seller) and smaller stocks of the stuff you casually right-click-> buy, again at worse prices for you as a buyer due to lower competition, or the fact that adjusting prices to remain competitive will cut into the trader's profits too much, so he'll just sit there and wait for you to buy from the expensive dude instead of undercutting him and offering you a lower price.

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